Manifestation Transcript

Rhea: Let's talk about manifestation. Why are we talking about this then?

Liz: Because you wanted to talk about manifestation.

Rhea: Is that the only reason?

Liz: No. It will play quite heavily as it already is in conversations about spirituality, but it was time to dispel the different myths and ideas out there. And the reason we couldn't do it sooner because you wanted it to be like episode 6, not 16 is that it's a much more advanced concept than a lot of people realize. I mean it's being touted as a thing that everyone can do, which is not the case when it comes to manifestation.

Rhea: A lot of people are seeing the results of it.

Liz: What it is that everyone can access is Law of Attraction.

Rhea: Okay.

Liz: Everyone can work with Law of Attraction because that is our divine power.

Rhea: And what is the Law of Attraction?

Liz: So Law of Attraction is that what you think creates your reality.

Rhea: And that's not the same as the stories you tell yourself is the reality you experience.

Liz: No, that's not the same thing.

Rhea: We're talking on a much more physical, actual—things, people, finances.

Liz: Exactly.

Rhea: When you say what you think, does that mean that if I think I want a car, I'll get a car?

Liz: No, it's what you know from your unconscious mind. Unconsciously, conscious place.

Rhea: Okay.

Liz: Because you're working from your higher consciousness.

Rhea: You're using your mind?

Liz: You're using that part of your mental body that you're not always accessing, which is that sort of expanded consciousness. So not that brain filter that says, okay, in this life I need to have a job that's going to pay me this amount so that I can afford this lifestyle. I mean, you can certainly get that through Law of Attraction, but it certainly isn't going to provide all the things that are really going to be in your highest good.

Rhea: Because it's neutral. It will give you what you want.

Liz: Exactly. But is it really going to be in your highest good then that you have this job that's going to afford you this kind of house, but then what?

Rhea: So how does it work? Let's say I wanted to find a partner.

Liz: As many want to.

Rhea: As many want to.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: How does that work? So I'm tapping into an energy that's inside of me.

Liz: Yes, it's a great example, but it's a weighted one. Because there's a lot that you'd have to sift through because there's other ways to do it, which would be simpler, which is understanding that yes, you do have a contract with somebody.

Rhea: Does everyone has a contract with somebody?

Liz: No one is destined to be lonely unless they've made that choice, or not lonely but alone or partnerless.

Rhea: How do you know if you've made that choice?

Liz: How strongly do you desire it?

Rhea: Okay. So the more you desire it, the less likely it is that you made that choice.

Liz: Yes

Rhea:  So for those people listening who think that I've tried so many times to find a partner and it's not just quite working out, my worst fear is that I've made a choice not to be with someone. The fact that you even desire it is a good indication that there is someone coming.

Liz: Yes. And if that person isn't showing up, then it's important to understand why if you really are going to work through Law of Attraction, because the Law of Attraction is certainly going to give you what you want. It's meant to, it's a neutral energy.

Rhea: Okay

Liz: So it's not going to stand in judgment and say, well, you're not deserving. You're not deserving because you're thinking that you're not deserving. It has nothing to do with that. Law of Attraction is merely saying, sure, you're going to get what you want. It may not come in the form that you want and that person is only going to match you and your emotional maturity.

Rhea: Let's say, I want to meet a partner. Law of Attraction will first send me opportunities for growth so that when the partner comes along, I'm at a place where I can appreciate it to its fullest potential.

Liz: Completely.

Rhea: Because for some people it doesn't work.

Liz: No, it doesn't. Because some people are coming from a space of fear that the things that they want are really just barriers to confront their emotional pain.

Rhea: So it's not coming from a place of, if I get this, I can avoid this. It's more I get this because it will make me happy. As well as it coming from a place of unconscious, expanded mind, it also has to come from a place of desire so that's two quite different things because there's happiness, and then there's avoiding pain.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: Okay. And I guess all the podcasts that we've done before about learning to listen to yourself and your truth and trusting yourself and loving yourself, they are all the dots to connect.

Liz: Yes. And that will unlock all those keys that help you then come from a space of freedom where you're not locked into these circumscribed ideas of what happiness is or what one's life should look like. Because that's what we talked about before. It's the comparing or this idea that old ways in which we would measure our “success”.

Rhea: So it's about really finding out what makes happiness for you, and then getting what you want basically.

Liz: From that space, yes. Law of Attraction requires a ton of trust. Just knowing that how you live and the choices you make are always going to be in line with your purpose. My husband and I, we live rather unconventionally. People ask us all the time, how can you do that? Don't you ever want to own a house? Don't you ever want to root? Don't you want to raise your children in one place? And for us it doesn't feel right. It has never felt right.

Rhea: So it's kind of like you will get what you want, but only if it is neutral to you or positive. So if you ask for something that will actually hurt you in some way without you realizing it, you're unlikely to get it. 

Liz: That's right. 

Rhea: So for example, if I just like sitting on my couch all day and I didn't want to go to work and I didn't want to do anything, so I obviously wanted to win the lottery. So I didn't have to get out, I'm less likely to win the lottery because that's not going to leave me in a place of the same, if not better. It's going to make me more likely to sit on the couch.

Liz: That's right. It's not going to age or evolution whatsoever.

Rhea: So that's what Law of Attraction is. So it connects you to what you want as long as it's not going to harm you.

Liz: Right.

Rhea: That's different from manifestation?

Liz: Completely different. So manifestation is conjuring from your heart's desire, and what your heart desires is always joy and is always in line with your purpose.

Rhea: And how do you know what your purpose is?

Liz: So your purpose is again, what brings you joy and what helps you create your relationships. For everyone on this planet at this very moment of time, their purpose is relationship. That's what creates our fifth dimensional reality. It's what brings you relationship and into relationship.

Rhea: With anyone. Friends, family?

Liz: It's how we find greatest connections.

Rhea: So our purpose is joy and connecting to others.

Liz: Yes. And it's not to be confused with what necessarily brings us income. It can certainly arise from that, which is optimal and what we're seeking. But when we say purpose, we don't mean your job because a lot of people would think well I need to be working on my purpose and that's not the case.

Rhea: So to manifest, it comes from the heart's desires?

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: Which comes from a place of finding joy and connecting to others. And sometimes in order to get to a place where you are able to achieve that, you have to do a bit of growing.

Liz: A whole lot of growing.

Rhea: Which is why Karma’s my Bitch. Because actually that run of bad luck, sometimes that lesson after lesson, or disappointment after disappointment is actually the universe calling you to grow.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: So that you can get the things that your heart truly desires.

Liz: Yeah. Remove the ego.

Rhea: So if manifestation comes from the heart and Law of Attraction comes from the four bodies that we were talking about before.

Liz: Yes. Your physical, emotional, spiritual, and mental. Well, in the way in which people use it now and the way it's taught, it's not coming from all four bodies, which is why so often it's a rather limited experience of it. It's a little hit or miss. It’s one thing but not another.

Rhea: So how do you manifest then? What is the point of manifestation?

Liz: Well, to be fair, I think it's important for people to understand that not everyone is here to manifest. We're all here to live a purpose, but it's sort of dangerous territory to assume that we can all manifest something.

Rhea: But we are able to “Law of Attraction” it.

Liz: Yes. Absolutely. We're all able to tap into a particular energy that allows us to make the most of all of our gifts and talents, which we all have. There's no shortage of it. And what sources all those gifts and talents at its very core is love and it's just however we transmute and share that love with others helps also define our purpose. Now when it comes to manifestation, not everybody is here as a manifester. They really only are if it's part of their purpose.

Rhea: But I thought everyone's purpose is the same?

Liz: Yes, in that very core way and how they choose to express that will vary.

Rhea: What's the difference between manifestation and Law of Attraction?

Liz: It's not the same energy.

Rhea: So it’s just using a different energy to get the same result.

Liz: Yes

Rhea: So it doesn't really matter which one you have?

Liz: Well, on the one hand, it doesn’t matter but for some who really wish they could manifest but don't understand why, then maybe it's because they're not manifesters.

Rhea: So basically manifestation is just super charged Law of Attraction.

Liz: So Law of Attraction is attracting. It's pulling from within.

Rhea: Is it true likes attracts like?

Liz: Yes. Law of Attraction comes from that space of separation as in it doesn't separate us.

Rhea: Manifestation then is what?

Liz: Conjuring from your heart's desire. Your heart's desire is not free will. Your heart's desire comes from that space of destiny.

Rhea: Aren't there people out there teaching Law of Attraction under the name manifestation?

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: And why do the words matter?

Liz: Because you're working from a different space. Manifesters will just sort of pull. Whatever is already in existence somewhere in the ethers can be brought in. Whatever it is, it's in flow.

Rhea: Okay.

Liz: In order to really understand and be able to work with this energy, it has to come from a space of integrity. Not of need, not of lack, not out of a sense of wanting or desiring connection, but knowing entirely that you are that connection already. A lot of people look at this and they think, okay, this is a very accessible way in which for me to experience spirituality, because I'm not really into the whoo-whoo stuff. I'm not into this, I'm not into that, but I can do this. This is great.

Rhea: Because it is giving me what I want.

Liz: Exactly. But understand that that's just a sort of manipulation of an energy that then isn't fully yours.

Rhea: Okay. Why?

Liz: Because it's not coming from a space where you're taking ownership. All you're trying to do is just use it as a tool. In order for any of this to really work, in order to be able to connect to this and understand that you are the connector, you need to embody it and people who are using this as a tool are not embodying it. Intention is everything. Even if you think to yourself, I know that this is in my highest good and therefore I should have it, you can't fool the Universe. Maybe you're not as ready as you think you are. In our minds we have such fixed ideas and definitions of what those concepts are, and here we are shifting in perspective and if you're holding onto that perspective it's going to be very difficult. And so we've been working on opening minds little by little. Just sort of cracking open, letting a bit of light in.

Rhea: So really the point of this podcast today is nothing to do with Law of Attraction or manifestation at all. We're basically saying this is why it's not working for you.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: And the answer could be you haven't quite figured out what you want yet. You are thinking you want this because of X, Y, Z reason, but tap into yourself for a second and ask what you actually want. And that's the only way that you stand a chance in hell of actually getting it.

Liz: And is what you want really in line with your purpose?

Rhea: Which is, is what you want really going to make you happy? Really going to make you a better version of yourself?

Liz: So much of what we think we want comes from ego space. We could sit here and sell Law of Attraction and manifestation, and we could teach all the steps as we go through and sell these concepts that you could have more, you can be happier. I think so many people are not there yet to be able to make maximum use of those concepts.

Rhea: And that again goes back to Karma's My Bitch, because actually the way in which to get what you want sometimes is to be a bit uncomfortable first, because after the discomfort comes the ability to use the Law of Attraction properly if you’re so suited to manifest, but in order to do anything like that, you have to know who you are first.

Liz: It’s purpose, it’s destiny. There are all those other things that come into play, and if we cannot accept or acknowledge or understand where we are on that spectrum in terms of our growth and evolution, none of this stuff is going to work, or it's going to work in extremely limited way and one that's not necessarily going to bring us an ounce of contentment.

Rhea: So really it's about if you want to use it a bit and continue using it the way it's always been used, we can use it in this limited fashion.

Liz: Absolutely.

Rhea: But if you want to unlock it to its fullest potential, you have to unlock yourself to your fullest potential first.

Liz: Yes. It's just another version of who you are, your expanded self first. But you don't get from A to F, just from jumping. Everything is step by step.

Rhea: What do we say then to the person who's like, I am in a rut. I am stuck. In order for me to really use this, I have to be connected to myself, but I don't know how to do that.

Liz: It's never been, and it's not about what you have. It's about asking yourself, how can I experience the greatest joy, whatever that is for me?

Rhea: And you connect those dots and on the path of connecting those dots, when stuff comes along that kind of sucks, you look at why it’s there. You use it as an opportunity for growth. Leave it in the past and keep on going through the joy. And the more you live in a place of joy, the more you will be able to tap in to the power that these amazing energies have afforded.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: And the easier it will get, and the reason why manifestation doesn't always work is threefold. One, if it's not going to make you neutral or better, it isn’t going to work. Two, there's a difference between manifestation and Law of Attraction. So law of attraction always works, Law of Attraction doesn't necessarily. You might just not be a natural manifester. Then it doesn't really matter because it's not necessarily then part of your purpose and you still got the Law of Attraction to work with, so it's not a big deal.

Liz: Exactly.

Rhea: But three, the reason why it might not be working is because in order for manifestation and Law of Attraction to really work, you have to be connected to your heart's desires.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: And that means knowing what you really want.

Liz: And holding that in integrity and coming from a space of complete love.

Rhea: As you have got to shed all those preconceptions, all those hang-ups, all those things they are stopping you from connecting to you, because all these powers really come from inside of you and if there's a block between connecting to yourself, there's going to be a block between you getting what you want because if you can figure out what will bring you joy, then the universe will provide it.