Home Sweet Home Transcript

Liz: What spiritual maturity and what this season has really been was to get us to a point where we can begin to really remember: power resides in us, in the individual, which then becomes part of the collective Oneness Consciousness. We are all we need. We don't need any of that bullshit from Season One - Gratitude, Manifestation, Letting Go. Don't need all of those other things - Astrology, Tarot. All these things will not exist for us anymore in the way that we had needed them before to carry us. We only need ourselves and we have to get ourselves there and we need to get ourselves ready, and we can't depend on other people to do it for us.

Rhea: When you say we only need yourselves.

Liz: I know I'm enough for me. It's the I am enough. You had this when you were younger. The irony is that all the stuff you went through and that you've been going through of late—the younger you would have never found them to, you would have actually experienced that.

Rhea: No.

Liz: But we do come into this world always loving ourselves, and it's not because our parents love us. We are by our very nature, most connected to the Divine when we come into this world. When you're a child and you're that connected to your divinity, that is who you are and that bit of us does not change. We're here to grow into expanded consciousness. We actually had that roadmap when we were children, but we ended up living in separation for so long that we lost sight of our path. And so when we talk about finding our way back, ultimately, it's not about regressing from adulthood to childhood, but it's about going back to remember what we already knew then, which is that we were whole and perfect, which is that we were unique and beautiful and bright and creative and had purpose. Each and every one of us had that map.

Rhea: And it's just this, I own who I am and everything's going to work out, and then things don't work out. So from going, “I am good enough”, it becomes “I am not good enough”. Then we create stories, we create narratives, we create excuses. We blame and we separate from that feeling of peace because we think that that feeling of peace is what betrayed us and in order to survive, we have to live in the reality of this world. I mean, this was my experience. I say “we”, but definitely it was an “I”. When you decide I want to take control of my life, I want to be peaceful again, I can't live in the separation between who I believe I could be and who I'm making myself be to survive, which is the true separation, right?

Liz: Yes. Absolutely.

Rhea: Because you are separating yourself, and if you separate your internal, your external becomes separate too. But we're also all doing that.

Liz: Oh yes.

Rhea: So the world is just separate.

Liz: Absolutely, and I feel for the youngest ones right now, because they have held onto their sense of wholeness and perfection longer than previous generations.

Rhea: This whole journey when you decide I want to be in peace again, I didn't think about I want to just go back to when I was a child and just believe everything was magical and great. I just thought, this has to stop. This is not a way I can continue living. What we're doing is we're slowly piecing ourselves back together. We're coming each step after step closer and closer to who we are and then you kind of just get to this point where you're like, “Oh, who I am is who I was. Whoa!!”

Liz: I know, right? Just notice more into adulthood you get, if you've managed to work through your issues, the more of your younger self you become, but not in an immature way, more you're tapping back into that wisdom. So as we've mentioned in previous episodes, the heart is the multidimensional portal and it's what allows us to connect to our other bodies and stuff. When you have a multidimensional existence, when you really tune in to yourself, it means that you're existing and you're experiencing your life in many different ways at the same time, and that requires expanded consciousness. We are not limited to this earth life. We never have been, but we are especially now really not. It doesn't source us.

Rhea: So when you say go through the heart, it's just really feel your heart.

Liz: Through your heart space so not your heart as in the muscle.

Rhea: Yeah, but then like feel that.

Liz: Yes. In the most expansive way possible, cause that's where you will experience all that potential. Because when we focus on the heart, we believe in love. It gets us to think about love and gets us to focus on love. Love is the state of being that enables oneness consciousness. So when we're also thinking about the heart, we're thinking about love.

Rhea: So when you say our heart space, the feeling of love, my experience of it is this kind of peaceful centering, knowing, and it's not necessarily the love I feel for someone else or the love I feel for myself. It's that feeling when I do something that may feel logically crazy, but I just know is the right choice. When you say the expansive view, that bigger picture of the story, this pain isn't just about pain.

Liz: It's not just about our individual pain.

Rhea: No, but it's also just not about, you're not feeling pain just so you can feel pain. You're feeling pain for a reason, whatever that reason is. And so when you can tap into that reason and if you can understand that reason and it gives you peace, even though you might be still in pain and that feeling if you were to locate it on your body, does come between the boobs. You know, it comes from the chest area. So I think when you talk about heart space, that's why you mean that area.

Liz: And it's our emotional body that connects us to our spiritual body.

Rhea: Is that where it's joined?

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: And so that's what you mean about multidimensional portal is that that feeling from that space connects all our bodies together because you feel it physically.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: You understand the meaning of your pain, whatever, so that's the spiritual body. You feel the pain itself, which is the emotional body and your mind is being aware of all of this and trying to also process it at the same time. So in that moment of feeling that way, so going into your heart, you're able to access all these different things and that peace is what it brings you. I haven't always been able to connect to that feeling. So to see the bigger picture and for my mind to process it in that way, all the rest of it. What ends up happening is kind of the opposite, which is my pain becomes all there is. My mind is trying to alleviate it by giving me solutions. Physically, I'm just trying to comfort myself so I can no longer feel it, whether it's eating or exercising or sleeping and spiritually, I'm just totally cut off. And that I think is that feeling of hopelessness. Is it like what can I do in this moment? Cause the minute you get spiritually cut off, it's like what can I do in this moment to just make it okay?

Liz: Right. That's when you are in your most drained, most exhausted. Ironically, the whole spiritual maturity discussion really does lead us back to when we want to get back to that genius, that point of creativity, that point of wisdom that we all had as children, that knowing.

Rhea: Which was sourced by that feeling of love and peace inside. So that was the feeling that was our childhoods, right? In so many ways, which we call it innocence of childhood, but really it's the knowing of childhood.

Liz: The wisdom of babes. When we want to get back there and we really want to find meaning in our life, not just the reason for our lives, is to find our purpose. And it's not that easy. They're really connect to purpose, as you know. To get back and finding our way back to that point of divinity requires that we go into the void. The void is actually energy. So if you don't need a visual, just imagine any kind of moment in space where it's just all movement all the time. It's not chaotic movement, it's just looping energy. What's most significant about the void that matters for everyone who wishes to understand what the void is, is that it goes on and on and on.

Rhea: So is the void not a space?

Liz: It is a space but it is not the type of space that the human mind can conceive. It is really this vast portal through which we can access our divine selves and it is within this portal pure potential. So the purpose of the void is twofold. One, to bring us into our divine selves. Two, to access all the building blocks for all knowledge. So it is within this void that we can get the information necessary to aid us in understanding what our purpose is.

Rhea: I don't understand any of that but we'll just leave it.

Liz: We'll just leave it, see if it makes sense later.

Rhea: So it's just basically kind of like when you clear your mind and you focus on your heart and that weird idea or weird knowing pops into your head. That's what the void is.

Liz: Yeah. This year is really the year where we are going to feel called to our purpose.

Rhea: Our purpose for being here. Each person has their own purpose. It's the thing that brings you joy.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: Everyone is different. It is not a person or a thing.

Liz: No.

Rhea: It's a journey.

Liz: We have been unravelling our notions of work over the past decade especially, really having to examine how we've misused the word purpose, how we've made our work into our purpose, when they have nothing to do with each other. In order to really understand our purpose this year . . .

Rhea: Sorry to interrupt. Purpose is effectively meaning of life individually?

Liz: Yes. So if our reason for being here is to come into our Divinity, our purpose is what underscores that reason, what brings meaning to that. So to get to our purpose, we must first return to our innocent wisdom. To really get back to our divinity, if you will, and understanding why we were here in the first place, we need to go back to that fearless person we were.

Rhea: In order to get back to being the child, we have to undo all the separation that made us drift away from that. And that's all the stuff we've been talking about in every frickin’ episode since we started this podcast. Get over your shit already!

Liz: Enough with separation because separation is keeping you from bliss. It's keeping you from contentment, it's keeping you from joy and it's keeping you out of your purpose. It's really about going back to that space of non-judgment, which we really only had when we were children because we came into judgment very early.

Rhea: It was that peaceful feeling inside.

Liz: I'm enough, I am good enough. I'm so great at this. Don't you just love when your children and...

Rhea: I was fearless. I used to jump on trampolines and climb trees and all this stuff. Now I can't go backwards on the Pilates machine. I was fearless.

Liz: That's amazing. Goddamn. Go find that inner child again. So what did we love and what were our gifts? How did we see the world and what did we most desire? Those are the questions worth asking ourselves as we try to get back to that innocent wisdom. It can be as simple as to bring justice, to right wrongs. There are so many ways in which one would do that - to bring wholeness, to bring healing, to enlighten, to embody. It doesn't have to fit within the 3D paradigms of what we think purpose is. If it's about justice, most people would think lawyer and possibly judge, but then half the people go to law school fucking hate it, and then they think, oh well maybe that wasn't my purpose at all. Maybe I need to move on. Maybe I just need to go into banking. And that's when you've disconnected from your purpose because you've given yourself only one idea of what justice can mean. And the point about purpose is when you are on your path to wholeness, when you are really connected to your childhood genius if you will, to that wisdom, nothing you do is going to be "wrong". Even if you question it, if I really do feel like I'm here for justice, why don't I go to law school? I should be going to law school, but God, I really don't want to. But then you find, wow, there's so many other avenues I can pursue that will get me there.

Rhea: It's just that feeling of, you know, we're talking from the heart. That feeling of peace, love, wholeness. It's following that will always ensure that you stay on your purpose, or at least reach your purpose or at least have it become clearer to you.

Liz: Yes, exactly.

Rhea: What I noticed I found difficult was allowing myself to feel that and follow it because it's quite a vulnerable space, right?

Liz: Oh, it is.

Rhea: It's quite a trusting space that I'm going to trust this feeling and I'm going to be vulnerable enough to feel it and then follow it. Whilst I was able to do that was as a child, as an adult, once you've grown up, that's a lot harder. It feels like we've seen all the demons that could be out there and you really have to have a lot of trust to be able to listen to that.

Liz: You do, and that's the result of separation. I'm so separate from myself. I'm going to perceive that I have all these obstacles

Rhea: Because we're meant to suffer and the only way to make us feel better is money, sex and power.

Liz: When you are younger, you don't need any of those things

Rhea: When you're young, you don't need to cope. You only need a backup plan. Once you're taught that the original feeling is leading you astray, just come back to that feeling. All those things kind of stop being so necessary.

Liz: Yeah, then they stop being the obstacle to your actual purpose.