Destination Unknown Transcript

Liz: Whenever you're hearing forecasts and change is going to come, change is generally a positive thing and so we immediately associate that change with something really, really good. Positive may not always feel good. Just because something on the surface looks really awful, it doesn't mean that there isn't a necessary and positive result to come out of it. Just like if on the surface everything looks really glowy and fantastic as we know from our social media life, most of the time what's really going on is trying to mask a lot of pain. So, as we hear more and more about 2020, it seems like it's all really positive. It's going to be great. It's the Messiah year, it's the Oneness year. We've even talked about that. We've alluded to it before, but I think now it's time to be a lot clearer about what 2020 really means. So, as we had said in Fate and Destiny (Episode 20), much like 2016, 2020 is going to be a year of surprises because 2020 is supposed to herald in Fifth Dimensional consciousness.

Rhea: When we talk about Fifth Dimensional consciousness, we talk about a place where there's no Separation. So there's no right and wrong. There's no black and white. Everything just is. We can look at the world with Compassion. We can look at ourselves with Compassion. We take the good with the bad because we know it's all for our highest growth.

Liz: Yes. And that there is no good and bad - things just are.

Rhea: Exactly.

Liz: Because nothing exists on the plain of polarity anymore.

Rhea: Exactly. And when we talk about Oneness Consciousness, what we're basically saying is that we are all One.

Liz: The idea that 2020 was going to mark that period fills people with a lot of hope. So you want to start with the good news or the bad news?

Rhea: Bad news.

Liz: Okay, so the bad news is that on the surface for about the first eight months of 2020, the world is not going to look so different. Things will still be crumbling. Things will still be coming apart. There will still be Three Dimensional consciousness being played out, so there will continue to be the fight between good and evil if you will, and so our awareness will be very split between what we are seeing versus what we are experiencing, and that will create somewhat of a dissonance in our own reality and what our concept of real is. People will get used to this, but the only way that they can get used to this and be able to discern their reality from that sort of 3-D reality that's playing out is that their internal reality is at peace, that they are one with themselves and that's going to be the real challenge, isn't the fight outside. It's going to be the one inside, because if it's not resolved or at peace inside, what will happen then is that we will easily become swept away and identify with that other reality. In order to make our peace with this dissonance, we still need to tackle any pain, any trauma, any issue that we seem to have skirted around in 2019.

Rhea: But what if you feel like you have done all the work and you have been confronting these issues and then they've somehow come back?

Liz: It's likely that it won't come back up, if you've really been doing that kind of work. Be honest - this is my pain, this is my trauma, this was the wound you've gotten there, then it's likely that it won't. Effectively, our external will line up perfectly with our internal. So, if you've been doing the work and you've been doing the work and it's not to say that you will be "problem-less". We're here for our own evolution.

Rhea: What you mean is how we see ourselves, others will treat us?

Liz: No, we cannot project ourselves into happiness if we are not internally happy. We cannot create for ourselves a joyful life if on the inside we're miserable.

Rhea: Basically, what you're saying is we have to confront the pain and sit in it.

Liz: Yes.

Rhea: Admit it and accept it in order for it to finally leave.

Liz: It doesn't leave. It merely integrates.

Rhea: It's like this is how I did feel but I don't feel this way anymore.

Liz: Yeah, but it's still a part of you because it remains.

Rhea: It still remains part of your story.

Liz: Yes, exactly, because it was a lesson that aided your evolution.

Rhea: We talk about how our external will mirror our internal, how the more love we have for ourselves, the more love people will show us, etcetera.

Liz: But it's actually not - even in this case - what I was talking about there has nothing to do with how much we love ourselves. Isn't that ironic?

Rhea: Oh, I had no idea.

Liz: Nor has everything to do with how much peace we feel. How whole do you feel? Are you feeling complete in your life?

Rhea: No.

Liz: No, that wasn't a direct question. Being at peace with it is not about accepting it at all. It's about being in Compassion.

Rhea: And just accepting it is what it is.

Liz: Just acknowledging that it is what it is, that you've done all the work that you can up until that very moment. So much like our first series of the podcast was all about meeting ourselves. Can you hold yourself in Compassion and possibly love? Can you embrace the wounds, integrate the shadow, all of that work? It was all internal work because if we didn't heal the internal stuff, by the time we got to 2020 we'd be all over the place and so the more at peace you are with your internal, the more whole you are inside, the more you will be able to manage and withstand and ground yourself in all the changes that 2020 and 2021, all the way to 2024 are going to bring, because it's all about perspective and it's also just knowing when to allow the wind to carry you.

This series is about spiritual maturity. Can we take the highest, broadest perspective possible and not judge and not run away or avoid? Can we hold everything, including ourselves in Compassion? That will be 2020. Because spiritual maturity is all about ownership, taking responsibility for who we are, always understanding that even if we can't see it, that things are playing out for their highest good in accordance with our evolution. From here on out, it's really about understanding that everything that occurs is in accordance with a divine design. One that we have all - all humanity - has had a part in creating and that makes us all entirely responsible for how it plays out.

It's sort of like 2019 was your high school graduation. As much as you kind of did schoolwork, it was all about your friends, and your friends were pretty much mirrors to you in your own growth. Counting down the days till you could be free of all the rules because you wanted to go and make life on your own and not have any supervision, etcetera. So, a lot of people go off to Uni where there are fewer rules. There's a little bit more structure, but you got to set the rules. You got to set your schedule. You got to decide whether you're going to go to class or not. There was a lot more freedom and because of that freedom there was a lot more responsibility because the consequences really fell on you and there was really no one else to share the burden. That's pretty much the difference between 2019 and 2020. Our consciousness will be much more expanded. We can take on a lot more information and analyze and discern and see the world in a different way. 2020 to 2024, we're going to be getting a lot of lessons. Mistakes will be made as we figure things out, but once we get through it, this idea of a new world, a 5-D consciousness, a Oneness Consciousness, it's going to be really possible we're going to know.

Rhea: You've been doing all this work. You have been uncovering what your truth is, your wounds are, who you are and you have come to a place where whether or not you know all of it, you're able to at least see a map of yourself. And so now the next lesson, the next stage is go out and experiment with that. Choose.

Liz: Play in it.

Rhea: Now you know there are no rules apart from what feels right. What are you going to fucking do? You could make a mistake. You could make the best decision. Just to do it.

Liz: And what will feel right is: “Is this in line with my purpose”? Transformation in this respect when we're doing this in body consciously, physically, it doesn't happen overnight and a lot of people really want to believe that this is like an overnight thing, but it doesn't. It's all internal and it happens the more ready you are to confront and shape your reality. Fifth Dimensional consciousness is all about relationship. It's all relational. How do we fit among one another? How does my issue fit alongside that person's issue? Are our issues the same? Are my issues impacting other people? We're understanding that everything we do is somehow connected and impacting others, but what we've certainly seen since 2016 onward up until now is just how broken our relationship to the world is. Now the world is not broken. It is our relationship with it that is. So rather than fixing that relationship, we have to create a new relationship and that will demand that we create a new paradigm.

Rhea: Okay. What's the paradigm?

Liz: The paradigm in the larger context paradigm is Love, but you don't get to Love first, right? You don't start there. It's all the internal work that is, as we said, our internal will be how we experience the world. So, within that, it's all relationships need to be based on four principles - mutual respect, consideration, tolerance and peace. We have to be able to show ourselves these four, one another, all four. We have to be able to set up systems that also are based in all four. We have to embody all four of these within ourselves in order to create a new interaction. Those of us who are responsible for creating systems, for participating in systems that impact others, that gets translated because we're embodying that. And do you see how that grows? Grows and then the more we embody all of those, then we get to Love.

Rhea: So not on a personal level?

Liz: No. Well it translates from the personal level.

Rhea: So basically, like everything we start with ourselves. It then goes to the people around us and then gets bigger and bigger and it's the whole world. It's a multiplier effect.

Liz: Absolutely.

Rhea: So, I just want to break down these four principles.

Liz: Okay.

Rhea: So mutual respect is I am you and you are me.

Liz: I am treating you . . .

Rhea: With love, so you are treating me with love.

Liz: Exactly.

Rhea: Fine. And then consideration is what?

Liz: Compassion.

Rhea: It's just another word for it.

Liz: Yes. It's about being considerate of others.

Rhea: Understanding where they are. It's a mixture of Compassion and empathy.

Liz: Yes. So it's not just being in step with that person, but really just allowing them the space to be.

Rhea: Tolerance?

Liz: So, tolerance is to hold the space for one without judgment.

Rhea: Okay. And peace?

Liz: And peace is to find wholeness.

Rhea: So basically, what we're saying in the really simplest words is I am who I am. You are who you are. I accept me for who I am. I accept you for who you are. I give me space to be me. I give you space to be you. And because of all of that, we just are. In Season One, we learned who we were and in learning who we were, we started seeing ourselves in others. We started understanding others, things they did that hurt us and the things they did that brought us joy. Just as we were understanding the things that we did that hurt ourselves, and the things we did that brought us joy. 

The next stage, which will be our whole lives, really will be I listen to my emotions. I give space to them. I allow them to tell me what they need to tell me. I am not afraid to make a mistake because it will always be in my highest good and because of that, I'm not going to resist the lessons. I'm just going to be at peace with whatever the fuck happens. Now because I feel all those things about me, because I've respected myself, because I have compassion for myself, because I hold space for myself, I can then translate that to my relationships with others.

Liz: When it comes to our title - 2020 and an Uncertain Future - it's important to get used to uncertainty as we're sort of playing in this sort of new space, and when we're realizing that we're free to do anything where the shackles are off. Just know that everything that occurs in 2020 will somehow be for our highest good.

Rhea: We had a conversation where you said to me, can you trust that you are a different person and you will have different experiences as a result of that?

Liz: For people who are struggling with trust, this is about hope. Can you just hang in there long enough to see this play out, because everything will look progressively better? There'll be enough progress made. This isn't going to be a period of darkness at all. It's just a period of uncertainty where, again, I don't know if I can marry what I'm seeing outside, all of this stuff playing out, all this crumbling and all the hurt, the pain that's just being played out. Can I see that but still feel whole in myself?

Rhea: We're talking on a global scale, not on a personal one?

Liz: On a global scale.

Rhea: Not on a personal one.

Liz: No. 2019 was about personal relationships, so that 2020 things could come together as they must. So that way we have found enough community, enough relationship to be in enough beautiful cosmic love space that we could allow and hold the space for all the stuff that has to play out.